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Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded

Six of the Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded

Thank you for reading The Whitetail Shooters Big Buck Blog. The intent of this article is to answer the question, “What are the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded?”

First and foremost we need to establish the criteria. The information and scoring numbers used for this search are from the Boone & Crockett record book, or in the least, from using the B&C measuring system. All measurements listed are official B&C net scores, in other words, the final number reached after symmetrical and abnormal point deductions, as this number will be the score listed within the record book.

There are many giant 8 point whitetails recorded that do not make the list, this is the elite of the elite. There are always rumors of larger “known” bucks, but until they are given an official score from a certified measurer it is all hearsay. This list is complete with the top five 8 point whitetails that have been officially scored and certified. If there is a bigger 8 point whitetail out there then it has not been officially measured and certified as of this article.

With that being said, here they are in descending order, the top five 8 point whitetails ever recorded including a sixth whitetail that could very possibly be the new world record 8 point.

The Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded: Tied at #’s 4 & 5

Starting our list are two great bucks that are tied in score, and both were once recognized by B&C as being the world record 8 point whitetail. The Vernon Winter buck was taken in 1965 in Hand County, South Dakota. It has a final net score of 180 3/8. Sharing the score and status of former world record 8 point whitetail is a buck taken in 2001 in Michigan’s Hillsdale County by Victor Bulliner. Known as “The Lucky Buck”, the giant 8 point grosses 184 1/8 and has a final net score of 180 3/8.

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
Sharing the former world record 8 point whitetail status is the Vernon Winter buck from South Dakota scoring 180 3/8 net inches. No doubt one of the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded.
Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
Sharing the former world record 8 point whitetail status is the Victor Bulliner buck from Michigan scoring 180 3/8 net inches. No doubt one of the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded.

The Largest 8 point Whitetails Ever Recorded: #3

Coming in at number three on our countdown to the world record 8 point whitetail is a beautiful buck taken in Saskatchewan by Allen Colly during the 1993 season. The beautiful 8 point whitetail is considered Canada’s record 4×4 with a final net score of 180 5/8 inches. Information on the location the buck was taken, as well as it’s gross score and measurements were not available at the time of this writing.

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
Allen Colly took this great buck in Saskatchewan scoring 180 5/8 net inches, making it one of the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded

The Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded: #2

The second largest 8 point whitetail ever recorded comes from the State of Iowa. Taken in 1996 by Elisha Hugen, this great 8 point is unofficially the largest 8 point whitetail ever taken by a female hunter. The great buck has a gross typical score of 188 2/8 and an official net score of 182 3/8 inches. Other world class numbers include an inside spread of 23 4/8 inches, it’s right side G2 is 14 7/8 inches tall and the left side G2 stretches to 15 0/8 inches! Unfortunately, quality photographs of the Hugen buck are virtually non existent.

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
One of the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded was taken in Iowa by Elisha Hugen. The big deer is close to being the world record 8 point whitetail at 182 3/8 net inches.
The Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded: #1

The current recognized world record 8 point whitetail comes from the State of Illinois. This great buck was taken in the central part of the State during the 2011 firearms season by Jason Sanders. The antlers on the Sanders buck are built on a pure 4×4 typical frame with a short abnormal point. Check out these numbers; total gross typical is an astounding 192 3/8 inches! The beams are 30 and 32 inches! The G2’s measure 14 and 16 inches, while the G3’s are both 12+ inches each! A respectable inside spread of 22 3/8  inches compliments these world record 8 point antlers. The final official score after deducting symmetry differences and the 1 6/8 inch abnormal point is 183 1/8 inches!

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
One of the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded, the Jason Sanders buck from Illinois is considered the world record 8 point whitetail at 183 1/8 net inches.
Honorable Mention

No conversation about the largest 8 point whitetails ever recorded would be complete without mentioning this great southern deer. Lonnie Copeland took this tremendous buck in Prairie County, Arkansas during the 1992 firearms season. Recently re-scored at 185 7/8 net inches, the Copeland rack has 30-inch main beams and 17-inch G-2s, had not two tine’s (the G4 and G5 on the right main beam) been broken off, we could very possibly be talking about an overall world record typical whitetail. Some people consider the Copeland buck as being the largest 8 point ever recorded, however, a simple explanation could change some opinions.

Although it’s true the Copeland buck is entered as having a 4×4 score sheet, the problem lies within the placement of the mass measurements. A true four point antler receives its fourth circumference half way between the beam tip and the center of the G3. This is quite different from a five point antler receiving its fourth circumference between the G3 and G4, which in almost all cases is going to be upwards of an inch or more BIGGER than the fourth circumference of a true four point. The circumference measurements on the Copeland buck were taken on both beams in the location between the G3 & G4. This placement has increased the overall score by at least two full inches and should, for all practical purposes, not allow the buck to be considered as a true 4×4. It’s still a world class whitetail, but in this writer’s opinion it does not fit the criteria as being a pure 4×4 so it should not have the status as being the world record 8 point whitetail.

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
The Lonnie Copeland buck from Arkansas is considered by some as being the largest 8 point ever recorded. However, the deer is actually a 6×5 typical with broken points.
Could This Be The New World Record 8 Point?

***NEW INFORMATION HAS SURFACED WHICH REQUIRED AN UPDATE TO THE FOLLOWING DEER***

Although this giant buck has yet to be entered, or for that matter, Recently officially measured, the Minnesota DNR is reporting the buck to score 190 inches gross and 185 net inches. These numbers, when officially entered, will place the deer at the top of the list for a world record 8 point whitetail. The buck was poached in the southeastern part of the state in 2009. The MNDNR may never enter the deer thus the deer may never receive the true world record recognition it deserves. However, it’s obvious the deer should be recognized as being the largest 8 point whitetail ever recorded.

Largest 8 Point Whitetails Ever Recorded
This buck, poached in Southeast Minnesota in 2009, is the largest 8 point whitetail ever recorded.

I’d like to hear your opinion on what you think about these giant 8 point whitetails. What are your thoughts on the Copeland buck being considered the world record 8 point whitetail? Should the Minnesota buck, being it was poached, be given recognition as being the largest 8 point whitetail ever recorded? Please post your comments and opinions at the bottom of this page in the comments section.

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Minnesota Monarch

Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch

Thank you for reading The Whitetail Shooters Big Buck Blog, and the article about the Minnesota Monarch. The intent of this article to shed light on the sheds antlers and answer the following questions; are there three sets of sheds from the Minnesota Monarch? And did a hunter shoot the Minnesota Monarch?

Whatever became of the Minnesota Monarch? Are the three sets of sheds attributed to him truly all from this great buck? Was the deer finally killed by a fortunate hunter?  Today there are still just as many unanswered questions surrounding the disappearance and demise of this great buck as there were at the turn of the decade of the 1990’s. In fact, none of those questions have ever been answered.

The intent of this article is to shed some light onto little known facts surrounding this great buck, and to hopefully help solve the question of whether the Minnesota Monarch fell to a lucky hunter’s bullet, or simply walked into the wilderness to never be seen again. We’ll examine evidence by comparing antler configuration and characteristics from the supposed three sets of sheds, and a final comparison of antlers from what some feel may be the actual hunter killed buck.

How Big are the Minnesota Monarch Shed Antlers

The reigning world record non typical whitetail shed antlers have long been considered one of the most awe inspiring whitetails to ever grace the pages of history. As the highest net scoring whitetail ever recorded from the wild, the beautifully curved antlers have long been a publisher’s favorite, appearing on over 50 magazine covers and featured within countless articles, a true testament to its beauty and grace.

solving the mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch
Solving the mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; this side view shows the beauty and grace of the largest set of antlers ever recorded from a wild whitetail.

As the antlers are mounted in the above photo, which is an exact replica of the bucks 1990 set, finished and mounted by Klaus Lebrecht of Antlers by Klaus, the sheds have a 23 3/8 inch inside spread. By all practical reasoning this appears to be a very conservative width. On the typical portion for each side the right antler scores 87 7/8 inches while the left side goes 84 4/8. Adding the spread credit gives the buck a 195 6/8 gross typical frame. Deductions for side to side symmetry differences total 8 7/8 inches, which gives the deer a respectable 186 7/8 net typical score. Another impressive feature of these antlers is the 50 inches of combined mass measurements. That places the Minnesota Monarch within exclusive company as very few wild deer have recorded 50 or more inches of mass.

minnesota monarch live photos
Solving the mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; a rare live photo of the legend himself, the Minnesota Monarch

The numbers get even more interesting when we look at the 147 1/8 inches of total non-typical antler the buck grew. The right antler alone carries 92 1/8 inches of extra antler, which is a record in its own. The right antler has a total non-typical score of 180 inches! It is also the existing single antler non-typical world record shed. The left antler, with its 55 total inches of extra antler, has a final score of 139 4/8 inches. As for the shed antler record book, the great deer is listed as the world record non-typical matching set at 310 5/8 net inches. Remember, the shed antler record book does not allow a spread credit in its scores, so 310 5/8 is pure bone! As the sheds are mounted in the above photo the deer grosses and unreal 342 7/8 inches and net scores 334 even! Those types of numbers are rivaled only by the Boone & Crockett world record Missouri Monarch, and Ohio’s famous Hole in the Horn buck.

The Minnesota Monarch Mystery #1, Are There Really Three Sets of Shed Antlers?

Yes, there are three sets of sheds entered in the shed antler record book that are credited as being from the Minnesota Monarch. The 1990 set pictured above, a 1989 set that would score in the 230’s on the B&C system. These were followed up with a 1991 set that had 30 points and would score a little over 200 inches with a modest spread credit. All three sets are entered in the shed antler record book and are claimed to be from one deer. There are however, several people, including myself, that believe differently. Let’s examine the antlers themselves, and in particular the areas between the burrs and brow points.

The Minnesota Monarch shed antlers
Solving the mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; are all these sheds from this great buck?

Whitetails have proven that when it comes to antler growth we need to expect anything and everything. What a buck grows one year may be quite different in the following years. There are however, a few “genetic locks” when it comes to antlers. For instance, the beading and veining within antlers from individual bucks will often remain relatively the same from year to year even with configuration changes. Also, the brow points usually stay very close to the same from year to year and their placement on the beams, at least within the several thousands of antlers I’ve looked at over the years, will remain the same. Color is also another characteristic that seldom changes from year to year.  These are important attributes that need to be examined  if we are to solve the mysteries around the Minnesota Monarch.

Look at the photo below, from left to right are the same side antler burrs from the three consecutive years of sheds attributed to the Minnesota Monarch, 1989, 1990 and 1991. A couple things really jump out at me. The first is the spacing between the burr and brow points. With two of the sets, 1990 & 1991, the base of the brow points sit very close to the burr. This fact is very rare in whitetails and it should be one of the genetic locks that we can count on from year to year. When comparing this distance on the 1989 set, it is obvious these antlers have a more “normal” space between the burr and base of the brow points. Another point is the burring and veining of the antlers. The sets from years 1990 and 1991 are nearly identical, but the 1989 set doesn’t match the later year sets.

Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch
Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; are all three sets of sheds really from the Minnesota Monarch?

One more point: Biologists have told us that the pedicels on a buck are similar to a human fingerprint. Meaning, they will remain similar from year to year unless distorted from injury. Again, the pedicels on the 1990 and 1991 sets appear to be very similar while the 1989 set looks to be different in size, shape, and texture. It is this writer’s belief that the 1989 set of sheds belonged to a different buck than the 1990 and 1991 sets.

Was The Minnesota Monarch Ever Killed? Mystery #2, the Eye Witness Accounts

Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch.

This is one of the greatest mysteries surrounding the Minnesota Monarch. Some will say that yes, the buck was killed in 1991 by a female hunter. Others are of the impression that the hunter killed a different deer altogether. Let’s examine the facts and find a reasonable conclusion.

The person that picked up all three sets of shed antlers has from the beginning said there were two bucks using his winter feed pile that looked nearly identical. These bucks were so close in resemblance that he most always referred to them as being twins. They were each on his property for a couple years, and they both disappeared the same year. Now, let’s consider some things surrounding this great mystery.

Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch
Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; one question always asked is whether the Minnesota Monarch was ever killed by a hunter? Some feel this rack is from the Minnesota Monarch

There is no question that during the deer hunting season of 1991 there was a huge buck killed by a female hunter, and that it was killed very close too, if not right on, the shed finders property. This deer came to light during the 1992 Minnesota Deer Classic. It was brought in by Lisa Baxter and it has long been believed to be the final set of antlers from the Minnesota Monarch. The Baxter buck scored an impressive 228 4/8 net inches. However, there are a couple details with Lisa’s deer that bring a conflict to what was previously known about the Minnesota Monarch.

One such conflict comes directly from the landowner and shed finder himself. He mentioned within a couple early interviews that the “Big One”, as he often referred to the Minnesota Monarch, didn’t show up on his property until “mid-February”. In fact, the deer was so consistent with this pattern that he actually knew when to expect the buck to show up. With the landowner being so certain of when this buck would arrive each year, how is it the buck would be there in November of 1991? As we know, whitetails are creatures of habits and patterns and are quite consistent with daily and seasonal structuring. Because of this I have strong doubts the Minnesota Monarch was killed by a hunter.

But there’s one more very compelling piece of evidence, and this is within the antlers themselves. As was brought out earlier in this article, the spacing between the burrs and the base of the brow points were nearly identical with the 1990 and 1991 sets, and the 1989 set was completely different. If we examine the burrs and compare them to the burrs of the killed buck, what conclusion would you draw? Minnesota Monarch; Solving the Mysteries, take a close look at the picture I posted below, in my opinion; the kill buck matches the burr to brow spacing, the beading, and the veining, of the 1989 set of sheds. I am of the belief the deer killed by Lisa Baxter was not the Minnesota Monarch, but was a second buck, the same buck the landowner referred to as being a twin of the Minnesota Monarch.

Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch
Solving the Mysteries of the Minnesota Monarch; comparing the bases of the three sets of sheds and the hunter killed buck
Minnesota Monarch; Solving the Mysteries

I am curious to hear your thoughts on the mysteries surrounding the Minnesota Monarch. Do you believe he was killed by Lisa Baxter? Do you believe all three sets of sheds are from the Minnesota Monarch, or only two? Leave a comment below, I’d love to hear what you think.

Obviously, a big reason this deer is so popular is because of the celebrity status achieved from the countless magazine appearances, but another reason hunters have an interest in this deer is because of the unanswered questions surrounding him. Many are still asking, and speculating about the circumstances surrounding his disappearance and eventual demise. It is my opinion, based on what I have presented within this article that the Minnesota Monarch simply walked away like a ghost into the wilderness, to never be seen again. A fitting end to the largest net scoring whitetail to ever grace the earth!

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